Comments on: del.icio.us question for the lazy web http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/ Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:54:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mark http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2345 Mark Tue, 06 Feb 2007 17:29:44 +0000 http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/#comment-2345 Don't be sorry, Walt. I'd much rather have you writing! While a little extra (friendly) mid- and upper-level tech support would be a wonderful thing in my life, your writing is more valuable to me than having my computer synced to the time server. Don’t be sorry, Walt. I’d much rather have you writing!

While a little extra (friendly) mid- and upper-level tech support would be a wonderful thing in my life, your writing is more valuable to me than having my computer synced to the time server.

]]> By: walt crawford http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2342 walt crawford Tue, 06 Feb 2007 16:00:04 +0000 http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/#comment-2342 Mark, My knowledge of ZoneAlarm is right up there with my knowledge of Zoroastrianism. I've only been using it for a few weeks (haven't yet posted a followup since I publicly switched from Norton), and I haven't tried to dig into customization much. I only discovered the 3rd party cookies because, ahem, the failed login to commercial databases from my Mountain View Public Library screen said something about third-party cookies... And I realized at that point that they're sometimes necessary as a cheap version of proxy. Sorry I can't be more help. Some day, maybe when I stop writing so much, I'll dig into it... Mark,

My knowledge of ZoneAlarm is right up there with my knowledge of Zoroastrianism. I’ve only been using it for a few weeks (haven’t yet posted a followup since I publicly switched from Norton), and I haven’t tried to dig into customization much. I only discovered the 3rd party cookies because, ahem, the failed login to commercial databases from my Mountain View Public Library screen said something about third-party cookies… And I realized at that point that they’re sometimes necessary as a cheap version of proxy.

Sorry I can’t be more help. Some day, maybe when I stop writing so much, I’ll dig into it…

]]> By: Mark http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2311 Mark Sun, 04 Feb 2007 23:55:40 +0000 http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/#comment-2311 Thanks goes to Walt! I unchecked the "block 3rd party cookies" in ZoneAlarm and it works now. Now for the next question(s): Is there a way to reenable it and have an exemption list? Also, not to be a pain, Walt, but do you know how to configure ZA to let Windows update the time? I prefer time.nist.gov. I tried setting up am expert firewall rule but have never been able to get it to work. Thanks goes to Walt! I unchecked the “block 3rd party cookies” in ZoneAlarm and it works now.

Now for the next question(s): Is there a way to reenable it and have an exemption list?

Also, not to be a pain, Walt, but do you know how to configure ZA to let Windows update the time? I prefer time.nist.gov. I tried setting up am expert firewall rule but have never been able to get it to work.

]]> By: Mark http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2309 Mark Sun, 04 Feb 2007 22:40:11 +0000 http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/#comment-2309 Ben, This is it: javascript:location.href='http://del.icio.us/post?v=4;url='+encodeURIComponent(location.href)+';title='+encodeURIComponent(document.title) Walt, Good idea. I'll look into that. I do use ZoneAlarm, which I generally like. But I have rarely been able to make it do the things I'd like to regarding specific exemptions and such. So I'll definitely try poking around. It still seems so odd though, because the "my del.icio.us" button uses javascript and works fine, and the "post to..." button works as in goes to a del.icio.us page that wants me to log in while reporting that I AM logged in. As odd as that is, you probably are on to something. I'll let everyone know if I get it figured out once I have time to play with ZoneAlarm. Right now, I'm off to eat and read. "Read and eat. Eat and read. Does he do anything else with his life?" he began to wonder on a cold but sunny Sunday afternoon. Ben,

This is it:
javascript:location.href=’http://del.icio.us/post?v=4;url=’+encodeURIComponent(location.href)+’;title=’+encodeURIComponent(document.title)

Walt,

Good idea. I’ll look into that. I do use ZoneAlarm, which I generally like. But I have rarely been able to make it do the things I’d like to regarding specific exemptions and such. So I’ll definitely try poking around.

It still seems so odd though, because the “my del.icio.us” button uses javascript and works fine, and the “post to…” button works as in goes to a del.icio.us page that wants me to log in while reporting that I AM logged in.

As odd as that is, you probably are on to something.

I’ll let everyone know if I get it figured out once I have time to play with ZoneAlarm.

Right now, I’m off to eat and read.

“Read and eat. Eat and read. Does he do anything else with his life?” he began to wonder on a cold but sunny Sunday afternoon.

]]> By: Iris http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2308 Iris Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:21:40 +0000 http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/#comment-2308 That's strange. If it's not showing you your tags then I don't know what's up. I'd just echo Walt's suggestion. That’s strange. If it’s not showing you your tags then I don’t know what’s up. I’d just echo Walt’s suggestion.

]]> By: walt http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2307 walt Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:09:27 +0000 http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/#comment-2307 Depending on the security software you're using, it could be "some crazy cookie issue"--the good programs (e.g. ZoneAlarm Pro) default to blocking third-party cookies (for privacy and tracking reasons), and that will sometimes disable the transfer of login information. (I found that out yesterday, when I couldn't use the online databases at my public library from home...until I enabled third-party cookies for the duration of the session.) So I'd check that; just a possibility. Depending on the security software you’re using, it could be “some crazy cookie issue”–the good programs (e.g. ZoneAlarm Pro) default to blocking third-party cookies (for privacy and tracking reasons), and that will sometimes disable the transfer of login information. (I found that out yesterday, when I couldn’t use the online databases at my public library from home…until I enabled third-party cookies for the duration of the session.)

So I’d check that; just a possibility.

]]> By: Washtub http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2306 Washtub Sun, 04 Feb 2007 19:55:51 +0000 http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/#comment-2306 I use the bookmarklet on my PC, running Firefox 2.0.0.1 -- could you share what the href of the link created in the bookmarklet is, Mark? It might be an older or ill-configured bookmarklet. Mine is: javascript:location.href='http://del.icio.us/post?v=4;url='+encodeURIComponent(location.href)+';title='+encodeURIComponent(document.title) I use the bookmarklet on my PC, running Firefox 2.0.0.1 — could you share what the href of the link created in the bookmarklet is, Mark? It might be an older or ill-configured bookmarklet.

Mine is:
javascript:location.href=’http://del.icio.us/post?v=4;url=’+encodeURIComponent(location.href)+’;title=’+encodeURIComponent(document.title)

]]> By: Mark http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2304 Mark Sun, 04 Feb 2007 17:24:19 +0000 http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/#comment-2304 Thanks, ladies. I tried Iris' solution first after first uninstalling my bookmarklets, but I don't use the sidebar, nor could I actually make it do anything. I also spent little time on it, truthfully, but it needs to be rather intuitive doesn't it? I then tried reinstalling the bookmarklets, but I get the same stupid behavior--need to login while already logged in. Then I installed the del.icio.us plugin. I don't really like the buttons being in the top button bar, I'd prefer them in the toolbar, but OK. That does thankfully go right to the tag and save page, but now the problem is my tags are NOT shown. I either get suggestions if other people have saved it (and I could care less) or none at all. Jenica, are you using the plugin or the bookmarklets? I assume from your comment that you are successfully using the bookmarklets. But if you are using the plugin, does it show your tags? Thanks, ladies. I tried Iris’ solution first after first uninstalling my bookmarklets, but I don’t use the sidebar, nor could I actually make it do anything. I also spent little time on it, truthfully, but it needs to be rather intuitive doesn’t it?

I then tried reinstalling the bookmarklets, but I get the same stupid behavior–need to login while already logged in.

Then I installed the del.icio.us plugin. I don’t really like the buttons being in the top button bar, I’d prefer them in the toolbar, but OK. That does thankfully go right to the tag and save page, but now the problem is my tags are NOT shown. I either get suggestions if other people have saved it (and I could care less) or none at all.

Jenica, are you using the plugin or the bookmarklets? I assume from your comment that you are successfully using the bookmarklets. But if you are using the plugin, does it show your tags?

]]> By: Iris http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2303 Iris Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:51:31 +0000 http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/#comment-2303 I use a PC, but I haven't used the "official" del.icio.us toolbar button. I use the "unofficial" version and LOVE it. You can get it <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2354/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. It's only one button (which helps with the toolbar clutter), and you only have to log in once per computer, even if you delete your cookies. I use a PC, but I haven’t used the “official” del.icio.us toolbar button. I use the “unofficial” version and LOVE it. You can get it here. It’s only one button (which helps with the toolbar clutter), and you only have to log in once per computer, even if you delete your cookies.

]]> By: Jenica http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2302 Jenica Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:27:34 +0000 http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/02/04/delicious-question-for-the-lazy-web/#comment-2302 mark, I don't have that problem on my PC -- I'm logged in, my toolbar buttons work effortlessly, and all is well. Try downloading newer versions? mark, I don’t have that problem on my PC — I’m logged in, my toolbar buttons work effortlessly, and all is well. Try downloading newer versions?

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