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	<title>Comments on: Public apology to Peter Morville</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/07/13/public-apology-to-peter-morville/comment-page-1/#comment-6350</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 02:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, ranger. Thanks!

I do think I&#039;ve stuck by my opinion, though, which is perhaps why my apology sounds hollow to some. It is not because I *am* sorry for causing offense. Now, I really have no control over whether someone takes offense or not at my comments. And I still think what I did, although it could have been said better and probably less snidely.

But it is the case that I meant no personal offense to Peter Morville. I think Ambient Findability is lacking in many ways, even while I acknowledge that I am not the prime audience. I also think $300 for a half day seminar at ASIS&amp;T is way too much. 

Despite all that I am big enough to say I&#039;m sorry for offending someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, ranger. Thanks!</p>
<p>I do think I&#8217;ve stuck by my opinion, though, which is perhaps why my apology sounds hollow to some. It is not because I *am* sorry for causing offense. Now, I really have no control over whether someone takes offense or not at my comments. And I still think what I did, although it could have been said better and probably less snidely.</p>
<p>But it is the case that I meant no personal offense to Peter Morville. I think Ambient Findability is lacking in many ways, even while I acknowledge that I am not the prime audience. I also think $300 for a half day seminar at ASIS&#038;T is way too much. </p>
<p>Despite all that I am big enough to say I&#8217;m sorry for offending someone.</p>
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		<title>By: ranger</title>
		<link>http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/07/13/public-apology-to-peter-morville/comment-page-1/#comment-6341</link>
		<dc:creator>ranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, isn&#039;t this your personal blog?  Write your opinions here and stand by them, my friend.  I don&#039;t know this Norville character but I do know you.  I&#039;m certain you weren&#039;t the only person to balk at that sticker price...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, isn&#8217;t this your personal blog?  Write your opinions here and stand by them, my friend.  I don&#8217;t know this Norville character but I do know you.  I&#8217;m certain you weren&#8217;t the only person to balk at that sticker price&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/07/13/public-apology-to-peter-morville/comment-page-1/#comment-6251</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Georgia.

You are correct. There is no rule book, and if that rule was in it I&#039;d ignore it.

So either I am simply rude and insincere, or we disagree about apologies. Or both, I guess.

I do agree that the simplest (and perhaps best apology) is to just say &quot;Sorry&quot; and mean it.

Well, I do mean it. I am truly sorry that I offended Peter. Offense was not my intention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Georgia.</p>
<p>You are correct. There is no rule book, and if that rule was in it I&#8217;d ignore it.</p>
<p>So either I am simply rude and insincere, or we disagree about apologies. Or both, I guess.</p>
<p>I do agree that the simplest (and perhaps best apology) is to just say &#8220;Sorry&#8221; and mean it.</p>
<p>Well, I do mean it. I am truly sorry that I offended Peter. Offense was not my intention.</p>
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		<title>By: Georgia Harper</title>
		<link>http://marklindner.info/blog/2007/07/13/public-apology-to-peter-morville/comment-page-1/#comment-6227</link>
		<dc:creator>Georgia Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. I can see apologizing for being overly frank (rude) in your assessment of the value of the guy&#039;s offerings. But this just seems to be a case of hitting the send key without sufficient reflection. If I sent off everything I type without lots of editing, I would have a nasty reputation by now. I am pretty sure everyone thinks initially more brusquely than the manner in which they ultimately convey their thoughts. It&#039;s just politeness to tone down, right? 

But the thing that bothers me, really bothers me, about your apology is the part about librarians not having personal opinions. Surely you don&#039;t believe that, and if you don&#039;t, then it casts the whole apology in a sarcastic light. If you do believe it, you&#039;ve silenced one of the most valuable assets you have to offer your patrons, your perspective. Automatons are not what I want in my personal relationships. 

So, since you emphasized your sincerity so much, I seem to have to assume you really believe the no opinion thing. Have I missed something in my grad school experience? Was there some rulebook that I didn&#039;t get a copy of? I really haven&#039;t heard this &quot;no personal opinions&quot; thing before and absolutely reject it if it is offered as even good advice let alone a rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. I can see apologizing for being overly frank (rude) in your assessment of the value of the guy&#8217;s offerings. But this just seems to be a case of hitting the send key without sufficient reflection. If I sent off everything I type without lots of editing, I would have a nasty reputation by now. I am pretty sure everyone thinks initially more brusquely than the manner in which they ultimately convey their thoughts. It&#8217;s just politeness to tone down, right? </p>
<p>But the thing that bothers me, really bothers me, about your apology is the part about librarians not having personal opinions. Surely you don&#8217;t believe that, and if you don&#8217;t, then it casts the whole apology in a sarcastic light. If you do believe it, you&#8217;ve silenced one of the most valuable assets you have to offer your patrons, your perspective. Automatons are not what I want in my personal relationships. </p>
<p>So, since you emphasized your sincerity so much, I seem to have to assume you really believe the no opinion thing. Have I missed something in my grad school experience? Was there some rulebook that I didn&#8217;t get a copy of? I really haven&#8217;t heard this &#8220;no personal opinions&#8221; thing before and absolutely reject it if it is offered as even good advice let alone a rule.</p>
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		<title>By: ASIS&#38;T 2007 Annual Meeting program posted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ASIS&#38;T 2007 Annual Meeting program posted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This half-day pre-conference on Sunday, Information Architecture 3.0 with Peter Morville looks good. But $300 for a half-day? Hahahaha. Dude, I already bought that piece of crap &#8220;find me&#8221; book of yours! People tell me Morville is a librarian; I say he is a huckster. I guess when I can charge people $600/day to hang out with me then I&#8217;ll be a professional librarian and not a minute sooner. Update: This is far too much money for me to pay, but my overly snide comments were perhaps inappropriate. My current state precludes me from deciding if they truly constitute a &#8220;nasty personal attack&#8221; or not. Either way, they were found offensive by the subject and for that I truly apologize. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This half-day pre-conference on Sunday, Information Architecture 3.0 with Peter Morville looks good. But $300 for a half-day? Hahahaha. Dude, I already bought that piece of crap &#8220;find me&#8221; book of yours! People tell me Morville is a librarian; I say he is a huckster. I guess when I can charge people $600/day to hang out with me then I&#8217;ll be a professional librarian and not a minute sooner. Update: This is far too much money for me to pay, but my overly snide comments were perhaps inappropriate. My current state precludes me from deciding if they truly constitute a &#8220;nasty personal attack&#8221; or not. Either way, they were found offensive by the subject and for that I truly apologize. [...]</p>
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