Comments on: Language games, or, Navigating the new http://marklindner.info/blog/2008/01/08/language-games-or-navigating-the-new/ Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:54:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mark http://marklindner.info/blog/2008/01/08/language-games-or-navigating-the-new/comment-page-1/#comment-14322 Mark Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:13:44 +0000 http://marklindner.info/blog/2008/01/08/language-games-or-navigating-the-new/#comment-14322 Thanks, Christina. I may well end up going the 3x5 card route. For now, I updated stuff in my wiki and am using that. The problem (one of them) is that I have a printout (could be skipped) that has to be kept in sync with the wiki. If I want to update something I have to go to that wiki page. The wiki entries can only be re-arranged by copying and pasting. And so on. I think I will struggle through for now, but I may switch to physical cards for the larger paper. Yes, keeping all of them will be critical as there is a much larger paper to come out of this. I tend to think by talking, too. I worked through <em>so many</em> issues in e-reserves by talking to my undergrad student. Even if she never said anything back to me I could tell if I was making any sense or saying something stupid by the way she'd look at me. Normal face, nodding, saying "OK" ... all's good. Quizzical look, frown, and the rare insightful comment (rare comment, always insightful) and I knew I had to rethink. I always thanked her and I think she thought I was silly but she was far smarter than she thought and she knew as much about stupid Voyager e-reserves and copyright law and related issues as I did when we both left. It is another reason I so love (proper) seminars where everyone is prepared for the topic. Open your mouth and figure out what you think while you are saying it. Sure. One looks like a fool once in a while (or more often) but in the interest of learning and in the proper environment (not all classrooms are) that is all OK. And, yes, people give me crap all the time for talking to myself. ;) Thanks, Christina. I may well end up going the 3×5 card route. For now, I updated stuff in my wiki and am using that. The problem (one of them) is that I have a printout (could be skipped) that has to be kept in sync with the wiki.

If I want to update something I have to go to that wiki page. The wiki entries can only be re-arranged by copying and pasting. And so on.

I think I will struggle through for now, but I may switch to physical cards for the larger paper. Yes, keeping all of them will be critical as there is a much larger paper to come out of this.

I tend to think by talking, too. I worked through so many issues in e-reserves by talking to my undergrad student. Even if she never said anything back to me I could tell if I was making any sense or saying something stupid by the way she’d look at me. Normal face, nodding, saying “OK” … all’s good. Quizzical look, frown, and the rare insightful comment (rare comment, always insightful) and I knew I had to rethink.

I always thanked her and I think she thought I was silly but she was far smarter than she thought and she knew as much about stupid Voyager e-reserves and copyright law and related issues as I did when we both left.

It is another reason I so love (proper) seminars where everyone is prepared for the topic. Open your mouth and figure out what you think while you are saying it. Sure. One looks like a fool once in a while (or more often) but in the interest of learning and in the proper environment (not all classrooms are) that is all OK.

And, yes, people give me crap all the time for talking to myself. ;)

]]> By: Christina Pikas http://marklindner.info/blog/2008/01/08/language-games-or-navigating-the-new/comment-page-1/#comment-14321 Christina Pikas Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:55:40 +0000 http://marklindner.info/blog/2008/01/08/language-games-or-navigating-the-new/#comment-14321 I am a poor one for advice -- but all of the interesting things you are seeing should be noted somewhere... what if you put them down on 3x5 cards and then start arranging them? First, getting them down will be a relief. Second, arranging and rearranging (take 2 -- alike, not alike, why different?) will probably help you pick up your thread. Carefully save the ones you don't use, because these might be the beginnings of another paper. You can store them in a rubber band or card file, but when you're in the process you'll need to spread them all out on the floor or a big table. Start writing little memos -- later you can either lace these into the final project or save them for another project, or forget about them. They don't have to be perfect, but can help you work through your thoughts... Now that I don't have classmates who are in the same place I am, and no one has done the exact readings I have (and I think by talking), this stuff is a necessity for me. I am a poor one for advice — but all of the interesting things you are seeing should be noted somewhere… what if you put them down on 3×5 cards and then start arranging them? First, getting them down will be a relief. Second, arranging and rearranging (take 2 — alike, not alike, why different?) will probably help you pick up your thread. Carefully save the ones you don’t use, because these might be the beginnings of another paper. You can store them in a rubber band or card file, but when you’re in the process you’ll need to spread them all out on the floor or a big table.

Start writing little memos — later you can either lace these into the final project or save them for another project, or forget about them. They don’t have to be perfect, but can help you work through your thoughts… Now that I don’t have classmates who are in the same place I am, and no one has done the exact readings I have (and I think by talking), this stuff is a necessity for me.

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